Pandemic Legion
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Yesterdays ОP thrеad.
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Originally Posted by Hratli Smirks
hmm yes this should go swimmingly
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Originally Posted by Ice Fist
So wait‚ there is a CSAA at this tower you say? With a PL titan in build?
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Оriginally Postеd by Dramaticus
View PostIce Fist‚ on 12 December 2010 - 05:51 PM, said:
So wait, there is a CSAA at this tower you say? With a PL titan in build?
huh
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Оriginally Postеd by hepatitisDD
I'm not capturing a moon for Stella Polaris.
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Originally Posted by Vile rat
View PosthepatitisDD‚ on 12 December 2010 - 07:00 PM, said:
I'm not capturing a moon for Stella Polaris.
This is a GSF moon that was taken.
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Оriginally Postеd by 7 Posted Dec 12 2010 07:
View PosthepatitisDD‚ on 12 December 2010 - 04:00 PM, said:
I'm not capturing a moon for Stella Polaris.
View PostVile rat, on 12 December 2010 - 04:25 PM, said:
This is a GSF moon that was taken.
Which means we're not capturing a moon for Stella Polaris!
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Оriginally Postеd by Ntrails
View PostHratli Smirks‚ on 12 December 2010 - 11:34 PM, said:
hmm yes this should go swimmingly
not empty quoting
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Оriginally Postеd by Arakkis Melanogaster
Monday 0045 is Sunday night hth
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Originally Posted by Color Gray
You should probably have the Drakes fit webs (and have a few fit target painters) in case they bring out armor HACs. For ECM‚ people probably want to be Amarr heavy (maybe a Minmatar jammer just in case).
Then again, they'll probably read this and bring Macharielswarm. 
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Оriginally Postеd by MpozoY
Why does the ship list include Rapiers? I thought they were armorfleet only.
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Originally Posted by Heimer Drago
Why does the ship list include Rapiers? I thought they were armorfleet only.
For their webbing bonus‚ covert ops cloaks, and their decent shield tank most likely.
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Оriginally Postеd by ZombyDog
View PostDramaticus‚ on 13 December 2010 - 10:59 AM, said:
huh
Historically goons give no fucks over defending moongoo towers but will drop everything for a good ol CSAA bash.
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Оriginally Postеd by ZombyDog
Had it been mentioned that say‚ I dunno, Billy Merc had a Titan in build then you know that there'll be a big crowd risking not loading grid in the hopes of cracking the non-existent CSAA
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Оriginally Postеd by Michelle Malkin
View PostLazarus Telraven‚ on 12 December 2010 - 06:25 PM, said:
But since PL is just looking for ~goodfites~ they should show up right?
Maybe if we sent a single supercap in. Оr a frеighter.
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Originally Posted by Dres Majolle
Cool. I can come and zoom around in my stabber and not shoot a CSAA that doesn't exist. At least I won't have to trek halfway across the universe to not shoot a CSAA this time.
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Originally Posted by xeus909
We seriously have to go through 1 jumpbridge and 1 gate for this. I'll be there in a tempest‚ or maybe a remote sensor boosted hurricane to pop the bombers that are sure to show up.
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Оriginally Postеd by Viridian Onyx
You should probably have the Drakes fit webs (and have a few fit target painters) in case they bring out armor HACs. For ECM‚ people probably want to be Amarr heavy (maybe a Minmatar jammer just in case).
Then again, they'll probably read this and bring Macharielswarm.
Yea, they'll do that so we can one-volley their Machariels. That would be a great idea.
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Оriginally Postеd by MpozoY
Well I can guess this is going swimmingly already
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Originally Posted by Kun'mi
going well
(notify) Wirbin has initiated self-destruct of their Maelstrom‚ it will explode in 120 seconds.
(notify) The Slayer has initiated self-destruct of their Maelstrom, it will explode in 120 seconds.
(notify) Zadus Rejan has initiated self-destruct of their Scorpion, it will explode in 120 seconds.
(notify) Phycher has initiated self-destruct of their Drake, it will explode in 120 seconds.
(notify) Kuar Z'thain has initiated self-destruct of their Maelstrom, it will explode in 120 seconds.
(notify) Scrappy Joel has initiated self-destruct of their Maelstrom, it will explode in 120 seconds.
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(notify) insolace has initiated self-destruct of their Scimitar, it will explode in 120 seconds.
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Оriginally Postеd by Dalmuti
death to supercaps
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Originally Posted by pmchem
they shouldn't have canceled the self-destructs‚ it would have saved them 22 jumps after shooting PОS for 5 minutеs with 400 allies and 1 hostile in local
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Originally Posted by Hratli Smirks
can't believe we had to come back from Fountain for this pageant of faggotry
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Originally Posted by Dalmuti
lost both my dictors: mission accomplished
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Originally Posted by Baidol Veris
Got doomsdayed in a scimitar‚ grabbing another in VFK to go back in.
In case you can't tell from the killmail, remote ecm is a bitch.
Edit: Reshipped and successfully warped while being targeted by another titan, but lag caused me to blow up again. Never. Stop. Dying.
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Оriginally Postеd by Largo Coronet
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Originally Posted by Dalmuti
let's fight competent alliances more often
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Originally Posted by Sirone Charybdis
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Оriginally Postеd by Baidol Veris
In case you people weren't aware‚ we're back in the fight. Bring dps fuckers.
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Оriginally Postеd by Kun'mi
Lost 4 un-reimbursable battlecruisers and 1 maelstrom. It owned.
Would x again
edit: Also all of them were from titan guns‚ how the hell do they track a battlecruiser?
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Оriginally Postеd by Weaselior
shot at lots of stuff and got shot at a lot and didn't get on a single killmail‚ I think
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Оriginally Postеd by Skunk Gracklaw
Did the NC guys really fuck off right after the tower at "their" moon died without helping us with "our" moon?
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Originally Posted by Fancington
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Оriginally Postеd by Michelle Malkin
View PostFancington‚ on 14 December 2010 - 12:06 AM, said:
https://killboard.go...t.com/km/499502
The whole fight I was thinking "All those titans can't just be targeting ME, can they?"
C'mon you bitches...oh, yeah, remote ECM Burst, but you can't stop me repping, oops, there goes Fancington's Scorpion, shit, another ECM Burst...argh Torp hitting at me...oh cool, 38 points...this is awesome, right aligning out to planet III, I'll wa
http://killboard.goo...t.com/km/499547
...shit
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Оriginally Postеd by Klyith
Cool‚ so titans plus supercarriers can win battles almost unsupported.
Supercaps online.
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Оriginally Postеd by Roland Hova
I have 13 supercaps on my kill mail. I was tanking the fighters dps easy with logistics but once the titans started locking me a proteus pointed me. It was a quick death.
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Originally Posted by Lazarus Telraven
Was a great fight.
The NC stood down their cap fight just as the WLF fight kicked off...
Almost killed a carrier it was in deep structure when they cyno'd their supers back in.
We Killed Fintroll(billy merc)
and my vulture was First Ship DD'd in the fight afaik and my falcon took a single volley from an erebus that landed me in half structure for the entire fight. (FCing from a falcon that is on fire is fun)
also
<-im in trouble with aryth for losing some BS 
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Originally Posted by pmchem
View PostKlyith‚ on 13 December 2010 - 11:17 PM, said:
Cool, so titans plus supercarriers can win battles almost unsupported.
Supercaps online.
If they had 15 Titans and 20 Supercarriers on field, that's over a trillion isk in electronic warfare immune capital ships on grid.
Why shouldn't they wipe the floor of an opposing fleet of subcaps worth approx 5% of that value?
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Оriginally Postеd by Dramaticus
get supercaps you scrubs
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Originally Posted by d0omer
View PostLazarus Telraven‚ on 14 December 2010 - 12:21 AM, said:
Almost killed a carrier it was in deep structure when they cyno'd their supers back in.
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Оriginally Postеd by Kun'mi
The fact that we killed anything is pretty awesome. And we killed quite a few considering.
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Originally Posted by Arakkis Melanogaster
That was fun as hell. We should be having fights like that every other night with PL.
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Originally Posted by Exothermos
View PostArakkis Melanogaster‚ on 14 December 2010 - 06:01 AM, said:
That was fun as hell. We should be having fights like that every other night with PL.
I hope not, that would mean we lose every other night. But yes, the subcap fight was terrific.
Edit: Also I would like to say that the FCing from Laz was very good. Good warpins and Constant broadcasting of the primary (those of you shooting at the primary bitching about the ECM burst need to learn how to use the broadcast window). It's just too bad that we had literally no chance of achieving the strategic goal as soon as PL cynoed-in.
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Оriginally Postеd by Autumn Dream
View PostRoland Hova‚ on 13 December 2010 - 11:19 PM, said:
http://killboard.goo...t.com/km/499581
I have 13 supercaps on my kill mail. I was tanking the fighters dps easy with logistics but once the titans started locking me a proteus pointed me. It was a quick death.
Sure wish we could omni-doomsday tank a battleship now.
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Оriginally Postеd by Ziester2
We're going to need a bigger boat. ie: supercaps.
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Originally Posted by Mathias Skillius
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Originally Posted by (DS1) Delc
Someone needs to clean up the field right?
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Originally Posted by Bring Stabity
View PostSkunk Gracklaw‚ on 14 December 2010 - 01:06 AM, said:
Did the NC guys really fuck off right after the tower at "their" moon died without helping us with "our" moon?
pretty much. I had an agreement for a titan bridge from 8cix to WLF, and they said they'd help us
We got neither, I'm not impressed vОv
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Originally Posted by Christ Jesus
To be fair‚ they stuck around long enough to see where this was going. I don't totally blame them for the way things went down.
It would have been nice to get that Titan bridge, but I understand them being gun-shy about it.
It would have been nice if they stayed and slugged it out, but it was a losing battle.
The only thing I am mad about is that we had a PL carrier in 50% structure then changed targets to shoot at Fintroll in a Rapier 
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Оriginally Postеd by Bring Stabity
It wouldn't have been a losing battle if they hadn't stood down those 70 supercaps just before this happened‚ then start complaining about low numbers then disappearing when we needed them.
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Оriginally Postеd by The Slayer
View Postpmchem‚ on 14 December 2010 - 05:23 AM, said:
If they had 15 Titans and 20 Supercarriers on field, that's over a trillion isk in electronic warfare immune capital ships on grid.
Why shouldn't they wipe the floor of an opposing fleet of subcaps worth approx 5% of that value?
Supercapitals should not quite as effective as they are against subcaps. They already fixed Supercarriers, just need to get the Titan DD damage based on sig size or something now and we're sorted. Capitals should be vulnerable without a support fleet.
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Оriginally Postеd by El Scotch
Props to Laz & Co. for doing a great job last night.
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Originally Posted by Fuujin
View PostThe Slayer‚ on 14 December 2010 - 12:24 PM, said:
Supercapitals should not quite as effective as they are against subcaps. They already fixed Supercarriers, just need to get the Titan DD damage based on sig size or something now and we're sorted. Capitals should be vulnerable without a support fleet.
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Оn thе one hand‚ DDs should remain as is--a single-shot direct fire weapon that uses fuel to deal massive destruction to a single target.
Titan guns should have their tracking reduced a bit more though.
Оn thе other‚ the main issue with DDs is their scaling--no surprise since CCP can't design a scaling system since, well, ever. Even a small pack of titans is only minorly effective against subcaps; its when you get 20+ titans that they're able to kill off subcaps in volleys of death.
Applying bomb sig rules to DDs is probably the best way to balance them at this point...either that or vastly increase the DD activation cost.
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Оriginally Postеd by Kun'mi
View PostThe Slayer‚ on 14 December 2010 - 12:24 PM, said:
Supercapitals should not quite as effective as they are against subcaps. They already fixed Supercarriers, just need to get the Titan DD damage based on sig size or something now and we're sorted. Capitals should be vulnerable without a support fleet.
I saw one of our flycatcher lossmails. It got alpha'ed by an erebus's blasters.
wtc: https://killboard.go...t.com/km/499563
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Оriginally Postеd by Fuujin
It wouldn't surprise me if PL has their titans fitted in a glass cannon form‚ with officer tracking computers out the ass.
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Оriginally Postеd by CyrixJester
View PostKun‚ on 14 December 2010 - 01:02 PM, said:
I saw one of our flycatcher lossmails. It got alpha'ed by an erebus's blasters.
wtc: https://killboard.go...t.com/km/499563
Yeah, I was noticing that every time I warped in to bubble the abaddonblob, all of the titans would get the yellow box around them. Guess I was warping off too fast for the titans to get a lock, but the abaddons didn't have that problem.
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Оriginally Postеd by pushedback
View PostMathias Skillius‚ on 14 December 2010 - 09:45 AM, said:
hahaha
Who is Evoq?
http://killboard.goo...t.com/km/499638
Nice Noctis Fag.
gf aren't elite pvpers like your alliance; we take what we can get
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Оriginally Postеd by Bring Stabity
View Postpushedback‚ on 14 December 2010 - 02:19 PM, said:
gf aren't elite pvpers like your alliance; we take what we can get
to be fair, we fit 3 salvagers on our bombers in goonwaffe to break even on runs
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Оriginally Postеd by Seadogs08
View PostFuujin‚ on 14 December 2010 - 10:01 AM, said:
Edit:
Оn thе one hand‚ DDs should remain as is--a single-shot direct fire weapon that uses fuel to deal massive destruction to a single target.
Titan guns should have their tracking reduced a bit more though.
Оn thе other‚ the main issue with DDs is their scaling--no surprise since CCP can't design a scaling system since, well, ever. Even a small pack of titans is only minorly effective against subcaps; its when you get 20+ titans that they're able to kill off subcaps in volleys of death.
Applying bomb sig rules to DDs is probably the best way to balance them at this point...either that or vastly increase the DD activation cost.
Even getting auto-repeat to work properly so that you are not going 1 subcap volley per Titan DD on subcaps would mitigate this. But hey the patch notes said it was fixed last time 
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Оriginally Postеd by Christ Jesus
View PostKun‚ on 14 December 2010 - 12:02 PM, said:
I saw one of our flycatcher lossmails. It got alpha'ed by an erebus's blasters.
wtc: https://killboard.go...t.com/km/499563
I was lagging really hard so there is a non-zero chance that I was sitting perfectly still when that happened.
That Flycatcher loss and my Maelstrom loss were both very much "press buttans, nothing is happening, pressing buttans again, nothing is happening..."
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Оriginally Postеd by Weaselior
View PostChrist Jesus‚ on 14 December 2010 - 12:13 PM, said:
The only thing I am mad about is that we had a PL carrier in 50% structure then changed targets to shoot at Fintroll in a Rapier
A cyno rapier.
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Оriginally Postеd by Ntrails
View PostExothermos‚ on 14 December 2010 - 06:59 AM, said:
I hope not, that would mean we lose every other night. But yes, the subcap fight was terrific.
I think we could have really fun and probably a lot closer fights if PL were unable to use supercaps cause, I don't know, the NC had 70 sitting around ready to drop.
Win or lose, who cares? (unless we start running out of money)
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Оriginally Postеd by Ntrails
View PostBring Stabity‚ on 14 December 2010 - 06:28 PM, said:
to be fair, we fit 3 salvagers on our bombers in goonwaffe to break even on runs
I never trained salvaging on my bomber alt, thank God for the learning SP
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Оriginally Postеd by Dramaticus
DDs need to be removed entirely it was a terrible concept when it was an AoE weapon and this is just as dumb if not worse
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Originally Posted by Atrum Veneficus
Pandemic Legion showed they could stop the Rokh... with a doomsday.
On one hand‚ I've had that ship since Delve, but on the other hand, it was no longer a part of our doctrine and I needed the insurance money. Next up, the 3 harbingers I've also been carrying around since Delve. More doomsdays please.
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Оriginally Postеd by Christ Jesus
View PostWeaselior‚ on 14 December 2010 - 01:24 PM, ѕaid:
A cyno rapiеr.
I know... Knar and I had a long and  talk and he explained to me exactly why I will never be a good FC.
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Last edited by karttoon; 2010-12-14 at 19:25.
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