2008-05-03, 03:33
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random PM to 4wing CEО(4wing is a corp in brucе) from "whoofe"
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had a good chat with our mutual friend
you can pass this along if you wish‚ name has been changed to protect the innocent Lips sealed
[18:29:19] BОB friеnd > you know‚ my good sir, if you guys don't siege our PОSеs we won't feel the need to come kill you. Smiley
[18:29:29] BOB friend > 'sup?
[18:36:47] Whoofe > heya
[18:37:28] Whoofe > actually the rumor is that you guys are already planning to attack us soon. i dunno who or how they think that‚ but thats the rumor.
[18:38:02] Whoofe > of course we already got goons and pandamic legions attacking, and TRI, and unnatural selection - so we got plenty of enemy already
[18:39:53] BОB friеnd > naw‚ BoB will leave you guys alone if you don't attack our shit. we'll roam through your lands, but that's just old school Eve stuff
[18:40:26] Whoofe > well thats what i always thot too, but for some reason ppl think you guys are either gonna attack or you are hiring ppl to attack us
[18:40:29] BОB friеnd > but attacking a moon mining POS and making us waste time that we could spend attacking other people becomes a strategic issue.
[18:40:45] BOB friend > naw‚ we see bruce as a positive strategic entity for us
[18:41:00] BОB friеnd > anyone's who's telling you that shit is just trying to destabilize things to force us into a fight
[18:41:04] Whoofe > cuz we dont intend to expand‚ and cuz ppl have to go thru us to get to you
[18:41:21] BОB friеnd > Goons and MC are our only concerns
[18:41:33] BOB friend > Bruce in fountain is a good thing for us
[18:41:49] Whoofe > lol i dont understand how goons are a problem. so far every fight we've had against them has been easy - way too easy
[18:42:00] Whoofe > even for a noob like me
[18:42:05] BOB friend > just numbers. goons on their own are not a problem.
[18:42:09] BOB friend > goons with their coalition is a problem
[18:42:15] Whoofe > i c
[18:42:34] BOB friend > being a "concern" does not mean we're "concerned" it means they're somethng we're allocating time and effort to
[18:42:36] Whoofe > i dont understand why they have a coalition‚ they are a bunch of idiots
[18:42:48] BОB friеnd > from what i can figure-out‚ they don't have a coalition yet
[18:42:55] BОB friеnd > anyomre*
[18:43:38] BOB friend > when goons had a coalition they were the main meat in a huge grinder‚ but the average Goon member stopped throwing their shit at the war, and their allies started to notice. So they allies stopped rolling tech 2 fit battleships and expensive tech2 ships
[18:43:40] Whoofe > who should we be most worried about ourselves?
[18:43:42] BОB friеnd > to the fights
[18:44:07] BOB friend > people coming from outside the current 0.0 block and looking to establish a 0.0 foothold
[18:44:29] BOB friend > if they ally with a big PvP force to help them gain space‚ that would be a problem
[18:44:34] Whoofe > i dont think theres any big enuf to hurt us
[18:44:42] BОB friеnd > Goon/a coalition entity or TRI would do it.
[18:44:52] Whoofe > goons are already 0.0 so are tri
[18:45:11] BOB friend > naw‚ you guys can't withstand an attack by a well established 0.0, space holding alliance. but there aren't that many of them
[18:45:22] Whoofe > you said an outside force
[18:45:42] BОB friеnd > yeah‚ so let's say there's a 500-1000 man alliance living in empire or renting space from someone in 0.0
[18:45:49] BОB friеnd > let's say they're allied with TRI
[18:45:59] BOB friend > TRI might support their attack into Fountain so that they can take over and live there
[18:46:09] BOB friend > so you're fighting the 1000 man alliance plus fighting TRI
[18:46:23] BOB friend > TRI still gets their meat shield on their southern flank‚ but they get someone who's maybe more aligned to them
[18:46:29] Whoofe > ok i see
[18:46:47] BОB friеnd > ultimately‚ having an entity between TRI and BoB is a good thing for everyone involved. and the leaders of TRI will recognize it
[18:47:15] Whoofe > well goons/PL have been making major raids. TRI just small probes & hit-n-run (or run-n-hide)
[18:47:18] BОB friеnd > it's also good for you guys because you can play BoB and TRI off one another‚ and it will dissuade others from coming into your space because they'll realize they'll have to deal with one or the other
[18:47:26] BОB friеnd > Goon and PL are just roaming
[18:47:38] Whoofe > 50-80 man raids
[18:47:43] BOB friend > if you drop the moon mining POSes that PL have set-up‚ you can't hurt them enough to leave
[18:47:56] BОB friеnd > yeah‚ but they're likely in shit. Its still just roaming operations and not an invasion
[18:48:33] BОB friеnd > we're threatening goon core space‚ or will be soon, they're not going to keep running up there if it means losing a lot of their territory
[18:48:56] Whoofe > heh
[18:49:12] BОB friеnd > It's hard to figure-out what's goign on with goons
[18:49:28] BOB friend > they've basically moved all their main combat forces out of their own space.
[18:49:53] Whoofe > i dont think they have much in the way of strategy
[18:49:56] BOB friend > they're living off the protection of others‚ depending on others to secture their boarders
[18:50:24] BОB friеnd > but‚ that only lasts so long before the guys who are essentially providign the security start to say, hey, "why not use that space"
[18:50:52] Whoofe > or get bored and look for real fights
[18:50:54] BОB friеnd > Goons have a huge problem right nowin that they have people who want to seriously play the game and they have people who just want to run around suiciding fleets and looking at the big boom that results.
[18:51:23] BOB friend > they need to keep both groups happy. but you can't. you can't be a serious business alliance and suicide your fleets for fun
[18:51:45] BOB friend > so‚ living in 319 is just a stop-gap measure until they can repair the coalition. but if the coalition doesn't repair, they're done.
[18:51:53] Whoofe > i have actually been happy with all the enemy we got lately - its just enuf combat action but not too much, and i dont even have to leave fountain to find a battle
[18:51:59] BОB friеnd > they want to say‚ "look at bob, they're trying to regain all their lost space!! THREAT THREAT!" but we're not.
[18:53:00] Whoofe > yah and i havent even seen much of bob recently. mostly goon and PLs
[18:53:26] BОB friеnd > we had two weeks off to get some of our logistics sorted out and just recharge batteries
[18:53:43] BOB friend > we invaded 49-u yesterday which is in Querious
[18:54:17] Whoofe > k
[18:54:31] Whoofe > so are you beating the MCs
[18:55:24] BOB friend > we blue balled MC yesterday
[18:55:40] BOB friend > they thought we were goign to attack them so they put together a huge "fuck off fleet" (that was about half the size of ours"
[18:55:58] BOB friend > and we attacked 49-u
[18:56:02] Whoofe > heh
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you know the absolute worst thing about having an entire forum compromised is that every one of your users becomes a security risk‚ and BRUCE has 35 corps so 35 separate corp forums and CEО and dirеctors and email addresses and various other methods of contact and there's always that one guy that reuses his password. lol
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