random n00b corp chat with alt
now imo this isnt forum porn selection worthy but i found it funny and some of you might to. and i might add that i came in a bit late in the chat.
i also liked that Gabrienne was fresh out of morsus mihi and seemed kinda butt hurt imo. but hey i hope its at least a bit entertaining, i had a little laugh out of it at least =)
Gabrienne > of course I say all this after just having been in null sec for about 7 months
Gabrienne > it wears on you... CTAs, cloaky campers, pos/sov warfare
ashikon > and there a lot of good mining there with a real good team
Xade209 > what region have u lived in?
Gabrienne > up north
Gabrienne > trib/vale/venal/etc
Xade209 > ohhh ur part of NC
Gabrienne > was
Xade209 > yea i just moved out of there while back
Xade209 > i used to live in deklein
Gabrienne > gotten too busy at work to keep up with the pvp, so I left
ashikon > im in and out of high an low.
Jonnie Black > I just left DT a bit ago...too much going on for me
ashikon > just running missions
Gabrienne > who were you with in deklein? it's changed hands a bit this year
Xade209 > own alliance
Gabrienne > ahh
Xade209 > i left before they got kicked out by goons and test
Gabrienne > smart man
Xade209 > yea, it was bull
Xade209 > and now im back in the south where i should have stayed
Gabrienne > oh? whereabouts did you land?
Xade209 > catch
Gabrienne > in an npc corp but living in catch?
Gabrienne > or is this just an alt?
Xade209 > alt
Xade209 > that would be something to be in an npc corp and live in 0.0
******* > i hear NC is going to kick PL ass tonight. is that true?
Gabrienne > no idea
Xade209 > not sure
Gabrienne > I deleted all my unread mail before I dropped corp
Xade209 > idk too much bout PL
Gabrienne > only thing I've learned about PL is that they won't even engage until 1) they know your fleet comp and 2) they have the exact counter-comp
Xade209 > thats pretty efficient
****** > hey they like to win, who doesnt
Gabrienne > oh I didn't say it was bad
******* > tho got to respect the speed they get their intell tho
Gabrienne > don't have to respect it at all
Gabrienne > at least not the people responsible for it
******* > lol, dont have to, but i do respect it.
Gabrienne > but I'm one of those who doesn't like the meta-game/spying bullshit
Xade209 > yea im not really all crazy bout politics
Gabrienne > I'm a chess player, and to me, spying is the same as reading the oponnent's thoughts and calling it a fair victory
****** > lol
Gabrienne > just imagine what would happen at the grandmaster level if one of a master's associates were to give away their strategy
Gabrienne > see, I don't really disagree with the concept of spying in the game
Gabrienne > what I do disagree with is that there's no way to really catch it, or punish it
Gabrienne > EVE as a game is all about consequences... and the consequences of spying are largely nil
******* > true, but in eve spying is part of the game, its sad but there it is.
Gabrienne > aside from, you win
******* > spying doesnt mean you always win
Amalec > try and see it the otherway and go with 'the consequences of not protecting yourself from spying can be huge'
******* > just give you a litlle more edge
Gabrienne > @Amalec: there is no way to 100% protect yourself
Gabrienne > if there were, I wouldn't have any complaints with it
******* > nah, even PL have spies in them
Amalec > and there shouldn't be
Gabrienne > agree to disagree
Amalec > the only times spying really goes to shit is when someone disbands an alliance or steals a whole corp's assets
Gabrienne > see.. that right there is the only good thing about spying in my mind
****** > yeah, thats taking spying to a whole different level
Amalec > and that pretty much always comes down to someone dropping the ball
Gabrienne > exactly
Gabrienne > if the leadership fucks up so bad that they give a spy director roles
Gabrienne > well then they deserve to fall
******* > yeah
Amalec > i agree
Gabrienne > but having low-level spys in every fleet giving away comms, fleet warps, you name it... it makes it too easy
Amalec > but the lighter spying, knowing when ops are and such, isn't really unrealistic and it's probably good for the game
Gabrienne > ...you really thinking spying stops at what time a fleet forms up?
Gabrienne > not even close
Amalec > no
Gabrienne > if that were it... who cares
Amalec > but at least it forces people to fight even when they can't win
Gabrienne > I've had an FC drop an unannounced fleet warp on us, and had PL bombs landing right as we did
Gabrienne > didn't even having a fucking chance to align out, nothing
Gabrienne > that is the result of spying
******* > ouch
Gabrienne > and that to me, that's not pvp
Gabrienne > that's shooting fish in a barrel
Gabrienne > and it's not respectable
******* > nah thats greifing
Gabrienne > well, that's how deep PL is when it comes to spying
Gabrienne > or the DDoS's against TS to cripple comms
******* > they are that efficient at spying. damn.....
Gabrienne > efficient isn't the word I'd use
******* > what would you call it?
Gabrienne > obsessive
Gabrienne > it's funny, after the alliance tournaments I admired PL, almost wanted to join them
Gabrienne > hell if I had good enough skills I might've even tried
Gabrienne > not anymore tho... I couldn't stomach those kinds of tactics
******* > well it seems there are alot of people that dont mind thoose tactics
Gabrienne > no one takes it to that extreme except PL
******* > since most of the 0.0 alliances use thoose tactics
Amalec > would join PОDLA if I was going for thе supercool pvp kids
Gabrienne > ...podla? the nubs who've been pushed out of their home by PL pets goonswarm?
Gabrienne > they used to be all over taisy/nalv/ots‚ etc
Gabrienne > make getting out to highѕеc a pain
Gabrienne > now you never see them
Amalec > podla who has half their pilots in BC's top 50
Amalec > they're a low-sec corp‚ pretty ѕurе theyre in the same place they've been for the last year or two‚ i haven't flown with them recently
Gabrienne > ya, cauѕе battleclinic is the best source going
Gabrienne > I will give podla one thing
Gabrienne > they were good at showing you who didn't have pvp chops
Gabrienne > who wasn't smart enough to protect themselves
Amalec > they're hands down the best small scale pvp corp ive ever seen
Amalec > i have no idea if maybe we're talking about different corps or something lol
Gabrienne > pod liberation authority?
Amalec > yea
Gabrienne > ya it's a pretty unique name
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