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Pandemic Legion
Alts:
Seriss Kaull, Habitual CEO, Admiral Frools, David Khan, Rejected Enlightenment
Kills:
7,169,482 (2,681)
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104,825 (132)
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10M
Posts: 4,444
Join Date: 2008 May
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You wanted to get in touch with me?
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good nuff‚ how involved are you in Rote leadership?
I don't really want to sound like an asshole, but a member of your alliance (Vader) just scammed a HABIT member out of a mothership (the deal was started while in CH and he's saying that since we joined PL it's invalid or some shit, I don't have time for his excuses).
Anyway, this is a problem. He stole a pretty fair sum from someone who is now in my corp (and has been since mid-transaction (during build)) which makes it my problem, and moreso I take it personally that this aspie motherfucker is trying to pull shit like this because CH disbanded and active people wanted to go to PL. Now, with Vader being in Rote I hope you or someone else can talk some sense into him, if not, well, I suppose I'll let you try to sort it out with him before I go FULL RAGE MОDE.
Anyway, if you can gеt anything done with this it would be nice‚ as the other option involves a lot of effort and probably some asshurt.
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Director of STIM‚ halfway director of STUGH (in-game roles, director channel access, don't read the director forums because I :rage: too much at the faggotry and will get myself kicked if I do).
Doesn't sound like Vader to scam anyone, he's always been crazy protective of his image or whatever, but then again he just joined us and we're not exactly the shining beacons of purity in EVE, so maybe he's had a change of heart. Still seems strange, because it'd kinda fuck his reputation as a businessman, no?
What sorta thing did you have in mind? I mean, I can try and talk to him, but Vader's always been kind of a "free spirit" in the sense that he never listens to anything we say if it involves things he's doing or wants to do. That said, this is kinda an ugly situation for us to be stuck in now, and I'd hate to see Rote Kapelle on the wrong end of this mess, so am willing to discuss options if any are on the table.
-Bacch
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How much exactly is in play here? I'm getting bits and pieces from his waving his epeen all over the forums‚ but haven't seen anything solid besides mention of supercap(s).
I ask mostly because I wonder if it's enough to justify mobilizing the Red China Army against a Montana militia (whee ridiculous metaphors--but you get what I'm saying). And yeah, I know how he is. Disagreeing with him is often pointless, he'll stuff his fingers in his ears and yell "lalalalalalala not listening" if he disagrees.
Anyway, what I'm wondering is if there's any way I could help recover some of these assets. He trusts me, and frankly if he's going to pull this kinda shit down on our heads I'm not too pleased with him for doing it without consulting me first.
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It was an Aeon that was in build in KBP which he's failing to deliver. If it was a carrier or something I'd call both of them retarded‚ but Vader used his position of trust within CH to create this deal and is now backing down from it simply because he thinks he has a valid reason.
It's not, and I've never let bullshit like this slide before, don't intend to start doing it now, but we both know that. What equates to stealing a mothership from one of my members doesn't exactly make me the SUPER AWESОME HAPPY TIME.
How thе fuck is he even in Rote? I don't get it.
Any chance you could provide his chestbeating bullshit posts?
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It's mostly been on TS‚ I'll see what I can scrounge up though.
There's also apparently someone's titan involved from what I'm gathering though. Basically from what I have heard, mostly grapevine, is that he failed to deliver some supercapitals to PL and/or ex-CH members and/or someone else I'm not sure of. He just posted some MSN convo with you where he called himself King Dingaling (wonder if I can change his forum name to that) or something, and has hinted on the director forums that he doesn't know what he's going to do with these supers but it sounds like he's open to selling them to other STUGH directors for a substantial discount.
As for how they're there, TL;DR is a couple of the non-STIM directors have a mancrush and a few odd STIM directors do as well. I'm no longer in a veto position, and Cass is a bit of a pushover, so there was't much of a fight to have. Ultimately, we've flown with them in the past, like a handful of their guys, and so it was viewed that them joining the alliance rather than just coming out as blues wasn't much more to swallow.
That all said, if he's going to come into my alliance and pull this sort of shenanigan behind my back against a group I have friends in, he's stepped on the wrong dick in Rote Kapelle. Moreover, he's trying to lord around his numbers in the leadership now--STIM has always had the majority share of the votes in STUGH, and we like it that way, but suddenly he comes in with a corporation of people comparable in size to STIM and thinks he owns the fucking alliance. I'm not happy with this development. And of course, I don't exactly want PL breathing down my alliance's neck, because even if you do focus target Reaper, our guys will get involved, not much to be done about that. And it probably would not end well for us. I've so far not done anything to indicate I'm unhappy with this publicly yet, because I've been weighing my options, so trying to keep a "lolol we scammed VS" face on for the time being, but I don't like this.
I'm half wondering if there'd be a way to take his offer and shove it down his throat by purchasing one or multiples of those "discount supers" and use the difference to cover the lost Aeon and/or recover it.
He just put this post up, btw:
So PL tried to extort Vader Crane while their own super-caps was building in assembly arrays I run in a system far far away and here is the tale that follows... (soon™)
"In the meantime somwhere in the batcave...."
Viper Shizzle: Sup
Viper Shizzle: What's going on with armisar
Vader Crane: ?
Viper Shizzle: Has his Aeon been delivered? Afaik your Erebus has finished
Vader Crane: yes my erebus has finished, no it has fuck all to do with Amirsar like you
Vader Crane: cheers
Viper Shizzle: Excuse me?
Vader Crane: yes, youre excused.
Viper Shizzle: Who the fuck do you think you are
Vader Crane: king dingeling now piss off Viper. You were not in those deals, you never were and never will be. Im tired of you trying to lord over shit
Vader Crane: so get the fuck lost
There will be a mammoth post about all the dirty secrets and how this all came to pass in the next few days (sorry but post is mammoth and still growing).
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He left out the last lines where I called him a fucking aspie and told him by fucking amisar he fucked me and by default fucked HABIT. Let's get something straight‚ he didn't scam me or anyone in HABIT. He fucked over an ENH member that joined my corp because he felt like he could get away with it due to some fucked up logic and his own severe mental retardation. I'm not going to let this bullshit slide and I sure as fuck won't have my name dragged into the "being scammed" part as I had no part in this deal other than yesterday when I found out captain cocksuck thinks he can get one up on one of my members.
Yes, I'm mad now.
Maybe he needs to realise the consequences of his actions and maybe you should explain those to him, because unfortunately they're going to affect anyone who's around him as well. That's about a nicely as I can put it after reading that bullshit. There were 2 aeons and an Erebus. Оnе of the Aeons belongs to a person in HABIT‚ one belongs to a person still in ENH. I have no fucking clue who the Erebus belongs to nor do I give a literal shit.
If you can come up with a smart way to fix this, then by all means go ahead. I'm going to the Оrеgon vs. UCLA game tonight and I will most likely be drunk enough to kick up a shitstorm when I get home.
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Well let me ask you this (also‚ go Оrеgon). If I could get him to sell me the Erebus and/or an Aeon cheaply "for STIM"‚ would you be interested in them? I don't have that kinda money laying around, but at the end of the day I don't want Rote Kapelle getting monkey stomped into oblivion because this guy's a fucking idiot. I imagine I could talk him down low enough to cover the costs of what was lost by the HABIT pilot at the very least, likely both Aeons. I don't know who the Erebus belongs to, but frankly I'll take my chances with most other entities in EVE besides PL. If we were to do that, it'd cause Vader rage at me and STIM both, and force a "he goes or I go" situation that would end with him being kicked, because no one's going to kick me, I fathered this alliance and Vader's johnny-come-lately that's bringing a shithouse down on us.
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I'll talk to armisar but in the mean time feel free to get me prices on both the aeon and the erebus. All I want is for the debt to be repaid as that's some bullshit to try and pull just because he has hurt feelings. If he's unwilling to repay the debt the easy way (or your way) then I suspect he'll end up repaying it the hard way which would be unfortunate.
Oh‚ you should kick him out of the alliance after this shit is done, he's way more trouble than he's worth.
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Sounds good. I'll talk to him next I see him‚ probably this evening. Have a PT appointment to take care of my broken crotch here shortly. Hopefully we'll have some sort of solution worked out by the time you get back, and if we have to do it my way, he'll wind up kicked from the alliance too.
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Thanks for not making this more of a pain in the ass than it already was <3
(you should put your nyx in habit btw~)
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