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here's a forum thread that's interesting...
f4t4l utterly fail at seeding the market, thread named "Market Sucks..."
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Оriginally Postеd by SUBA - Pabs Sco
We all know it does....come on you carebears!!!!
Seed the G95 market!!!
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Originally Posted by DEQS - Kaaii
this probably should be in the market forum‚ but since you posted here..
Just what are you looking for?
I know it can be very frustrating not being able to fit your perfect mods for the perfect setup, but considering theres over 6000 items available to produce Im thinking you should narrow the guessing field down to say, 20?
Also, with only two build slots in station, it really hampers anyones attempts to "seed the market", so most people that have build toons rely on pos modules, shipped in by carrier to provide the basic construction facilities thier guild needs. Each one of the shp arrays, for example cost around 90mil each, and theres 6 types. Each one has a specific ship that they produce, and no others are allowed (class). These modules also each huge amounts of grid on a pos, and in doing so, fuel. Which creates yet more runs in carriers...you see the pattern..
Then theres the whole mineral supply, specifically low ends. And yes there are hauler spawns which help mitigate the need for mining, somewhat.
The beauty of 0.0 is you can carve out just about anything you can hold on to, including a dynamic, powerful market place. The bane is it takes time, and effort and isks on alot of peoples part.
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Оriginally Postеd by F4T4L - Feerax
By all means you try seeding a market that is open to everyone who lives in fountain.
I got tired of trying.
Dicks buy up everything and puts it back for a profit‚ then dick number two does it again.
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Оriginally Postеd by F4T4L - Riesyk Giablaek
We need low ends. No one wants to mine veldspar here‚ but that's what the market needs most...
If you want battleships, get a hauler for every one of your characters and haul every single ounce of trit from hauler spawns, whether you find it or anyone else does. Оr, do what thе rest of us do and bring it up from empire yourself. I've moved up two megathrons in the past week and I don't even fly them in pvp currently. We have battleship shortages‚ I needed modules, and was able to fund my module purchases by buying at empire prices and reselling in g95 at a modest markup for my risk and time. Both ships sold within the day and are (hopefully) going to see use in pvp alongside my own BS's. I get my modules, someone gets a ship, and we all are happy. But key to all of this, is taking the initiative and doing it yourself.
The Vehan route is sometimes camped, the D4KU route is sometimes camped, the orvolle routes are sometimes camped, but if you scout with an alt, fit istabs, mwd, and a cloak, it's not that fucking hard to move ships up. Watch the map statistics, use a little common sense, and don't try to force your way thru an obvious camp, and you'll have your very own shiny battleship in g95 like the rest of us. Оh, and bе on TS‚ and watch intel channels too.........
And finally, don't get frustrated with the alliance builders because they can't shit out a nice pile of low end mins to turn into battleships. It's not the builders fault when people don't bring in hauler spawns, it's not their fault when other people don't sell them mins. We have several builders trying to put the market together out here but it will never happen unless we all make an effort. Scoop your loot and reproc it if you can too, again, great to use an alt for this.
The alliance just grew vastly in size and there are a lot more people needing shit and the minerals in g95 aren't magically appearing. So if I might offer any advice for now, it is this. Get whatever you want in empire and bring it up yourself. Market will be fucked for a while until people get settled in and fountain becomes more stable (ie- we remove Snigg, MM, Goonies and the other coalition shitheads). It won't get better here unless people go out of their way to do shit themselves.
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Оriginally Postеd by TWH - Archilies
As only very recently new corps only joined days/week(s) ago‚ give it some time, for people to re-populate the market. It's so down because the newer alliance members are buying everything up. But when im les inactive from rl, ill try and keep ammo and missiles always on market on sale in HQ. As soon as i get my carrier Everything shall be sorted, believe me :P
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Оriginally Postеd by TWH - Shep88
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Originally Posted by TWH - Archilies
As only very recently new corps only joined days/week(s) ago‚ give it some time, for people to re-populate the market. It's so down because the newer alliance members are buying everything up. But when im les inactive from rl, ill try and keep ammo and missiles always on market on sale in HQ. As soon as i get my carrier Everything shall be sorted, believe me :P
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why do i worry...
and on the veld minning somone said befor.. i dont mind minning veld at all, it dont pop fast and its always needed. as soon as i get my minning ship up here ill mine it....
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Оriginally Postеd by FS - Relaed
It is very hard to seed a market where there are next to no production slots available. My suggestion would be to Focus market seeding and combat activity from YZ-LQL. There are slots in and around that system for use‚ and it is a vital choke point for control of fountain, most of us should be based from there. G95 is just a out lying hub for minerals and PОS Production of еssentials‚ capitals, what have you.
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summary: f4t4l completely fail at obtaining minerals and building items because their outposts only have 2 build slots. i'm happy to take their place. they seem to have a lowend problem so if we managed to kill more of their bses in their defense gangs i think we could inflict some serious hurt on them or otherwise make a ridiculous profit on it. god i wish we had more people so we could eat their fleets instead of get overrun alwyas. i also notice market competition in yz-lql
ive always wanted to get a freighter alt into an enemy alliance with an outpost like this. i could build things in npc stations and ferry it over and sell it at ridiculous prices on an alt. especially an alliance with price controls. so easy to victimize
and a 1 post thread made by a guy chastizing the members to post loss mails
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Оriginally Postеd by F4T4L - jokerb
Short and Sweet. Post them. Don't embarass yourself. I found 10 tonight from Pandemic and BOS that were not posted over the last 3 days :x
They are now on our board. I also found 1 kill mail‚ which meanѕ that our mеmbers are not being instructed by their respective Corp Hierarchy to post both Kills and Losses.
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Last edited by mazzilliu; 2007-05-24 at 16:14.
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