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Bombing for Dummies
Greetings, little wafflebees. I have decided to redirect some knowledge that should help you become the best -Waffe bombing group in Eve. Let's start with the basics. I haven't actually bombed anything in awhile so if you can correct any mistakes or add some wisdom that'd be pretty sweet.
I'd prefer all bombing discussion to be simple though. If you're planning on arguing some math regarding the number of hounds, shrapnel bombs, covert ops skill level, and the alignment of the planets, don't.
What is bombing?
Bombing is when you take multiple stealth bomber class battlesteeds and coordinate a strike on our most terrible of foes. You need a max of about 8 bombers all using the exact same type of bomb. This bomb type is and always be shrapnel. We never use bombs that aren't shrapnel other than those few times we use bombs that aren't shrapnel. But for now just pretend that shrapnel is all you need because it pretty much is. You will ideally be bombing targets that are either tackled by hictors/dictors or have tackled themselves by dropping out of warp and being too slow to get out before your bombs land. Bombing is hilariously effective against pretty much anything that doesn't have an abnormally small signature radius. Most cruisers and battlecruisers will get torn apart by a wave of bombers. Battleships will take a hefty amount of damage but shouldn't die to a single wave unless they're glass cannon snipers but no one flies those anymore.
How does it work?
Bombing starts way before you're even in the target system. There are a few things you need to make sure you have before you leave your staging station/pos/whatever.
*Bombers - Can't bomb without them
*Bombs - They travel 30km in 10 seconds and hit everything within 15km of the detonation point.
*Probing FC - Would ideally be a probing bomber. You'll be probing things on-grid, so you don't need a covert ops ship's bonus to get a 100% hit on most ships. If it wasn't obvious enough by now, you also need to understand the new probing mechanics.
*Bomb truck - A blockade runner can carry spare bombs, fuel for your black ops battleship, loot, etc. They're agile as crap so it's fairly easy to dodge camps and get into systems with them. They can also get bridged by black ops battleships. If you don't have a bomb truck, just anchor a GSC in your target system, put bombs in it, and give warp-ins to it when you get there.
*Black ops - Useful if you're bombing in cynojammed systems. Also useful since you only need one ship to make it past any potential camps instead of all of them. If you don't have one, you can just use gates like a scrub.
Now that you have all the ships and bombs that you need, it's time for the FC to step in.
What does the FC do?
All of the work, pretty much. Make sure whatever you're bombing is preoccupied, bubbled, slow, or preferrably all three. Remember that the most important thing you have is surprise. Don't waste it on some group of ships that can avoid half your bombs. You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow. This opportunity only comes once in a lifetime.
The FC's first job is the make the fleet with free move off and no squad commanders. You want no more than 8 bombers per squad, with an additional squad of nothing but dictors if you actually have any.
The second job is to get into position. You will want an on-grid bookmark at least 200km away from whatever the target is(pos/ihub/etc.). Being above or below the target will make it easier to avoid getting dragged into bubbles and screwing up your bombing run, but it'll be harder to align out after the bombs are launched. Bonus points for doing this early so you'll have time to do this without decloaking. Оncе you're cloaked at your spot‚ keep moving in some random direction that won't take you off grid. Going horizontally is probably easiest. Now you need to get the rest of your bombers there. Start calling out names by squad. The first person in squad 1 warps at 10, the second at 30, the third at 50, the fourth at 70, the fifth at 10, etc. Do the same for the dictors. Kinda sucks that they can't warp cloaked, but if your bombers stay cloaked while they're warping in like they should be doing, a dictor or two warping on-grid and cloaking shouldn't be too suspicious.
The third thing to do is wait for both the right target and the right time to bomb. You're only a surprise the first time you decloak. Your target would ideally be slow, preoccupied, and bubbled (by your dictor that hasn't warped in yet). So now you've found your target. There's 70 bumbling retards in drakes spewing heavy missiles everywhere and you want them to die. Since you already had your probes out and started scanning when this juicy target appeared in front of you, call for your dictor to decloak. Find a drake probe result that matches up with how far away they are on overview, move yourself to squad commander position in the dictor squad, squad warp to the result at 0, and cancel warp. Then move to the SC positions in your bomber squads, squad warp to the result at 30, and cancel warp. The dictor will bubble and die in a terrible fire, but his sacrifice will not be in vain. Unless there's a scrub bomber who doesn't have shrapnels for some reason. You don't have to cancel warp, but if you're the only probing bomber and you die because you're a killmail whore, then you kinda just screwed the rest of your gang over.
If your target is already bubbled and you really want to bomb them you can. Just keep in mind that you'll get dragged into the bubble. That makes it easier for them to get away if they're paying attention (probably not) but most importantly, it makes it a hell of a lot easier for your bombers to die.
What do the bombers do?
Pay attention, stay cloaked, and follow orders. When you warp to your bombing perch, make sure you do so cloaked and make sure you bookmark that spot. DО NOT MOVE. If you do, you might dеcloak someone. That is not what you want to do. When the FC tells you you're getting squad warped‚ do not decloak yourself until you're out of warp. You'll probably get decloaked by other bombers anyway but don't do it early. While you're in warp, pick a celestial that you'll use as your warp out point. It helps to hit Alt + X to turn on moons as well. When you drop out of warp, align to the middle of their blob if you didn't land perfectly, decloak if you aren't already for some reason, launch your bomb, and get the hell out. Cloak up as soon as you can and then return to your perch and wait for further instructions.
What do I fit?
Fit a covert ops cloak, a bomb launcher, a medium shield extender for buffer, mwd, and nanofibers/inertia stabilizers in the lows for agility. Istabs increase your sig and make you faster to lock, but the mse does as well so the penalty probably isn't too big of a deal. After you have that stuff on, you can squeeze on named torp launchers for ganking. You will probably need small acr rigs and/or a mapc to fit all this. Don't forget to carry two shrapnel bombs in your launcher and up to 2 in your cargo hold. You should still have enough room for more than enough torps unless you plan on shooting capitals with your bomber or something equally stupid.
What does the FC fit?
Covert cloak, bomb launcher, covert cyno gen if you're using a blops and are the one lighting cynos, mse, mwd, agility lows, expanded probe launcher. So something similar to this abomination of a fit:
[Manticore, Probicore]
Inertia Stabilizers II
Inertia Stabilizers II
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Covert Оps Cloaking Dеvice II
Covert Cynosural Field Generator I
Expanded Probe Launcher I‚ Combat Scanner Probe I
Bomb Launcher I, Shrapnel Bomb
[empty high ѕlot]
Small Ancillary Currеnt Router I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
What if we can't get enough bombers in fleet?
If you don't have enough to make use of bomb launchers‚ uѕе torps instead. Park yourselves cloaked in a belt or off a gate or something. You have a covert ops cloak and no targeting delay whatsoever. This means you can move around system with no risk unless you warp into a drag bubble. It also means if you have points fitted to some of your bombers‚ you can decloak, inѕtantly tacklе something‚ and apply damage a few ѕеconds later. Just because you don't have enough to bomb doesn't mean you can't gank stragglers or people warping out to belts.
Last edited by Mistress Frome; 2010-08-26 at 16:41.
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