WR3CK (General): 19th Membership update

[Shadoo]

Оriginally Postеd by CEO-Sacul

Havent done this one in a long while but since im twidling my thumbs waiting for a phone call from my boss i might aswell.

As you have certainly heared by now we are labeled as bob pets and part of the gbc. While i cant help bitter nc tears and propaganda i can explain a little why we joined the gbc.

Goodfellas started with allot of disgruntled bob members who wanted to go back roaming again and leave pos shit behind them so they have very strong ties to bob leaders. The alliance came up here after they heared from bob that there was no interest in holding deklein and that it was just a stepstone to the north. At this point Wreck joined them and at the same time there was allot of friction between gods and bob. We took Deklein and bob reset us over some ego bullshit that is normally reserved for 12 year olds.

After taking Deklein it was allways the idea to go into Branch but Bob and Tri were getting a good beating so BoB asked us to rejoin the gbc and help them offcourse this made sense. If BoB and Tri would fall we would be next and we didnt even have sov3 in half the station systems.

So we went to m-o and we got DD about 10 times in 4 days and lost a shit ton of ships for absolutely nothing‚ uncle bob fc's would just say get a new ship and be back in 15 minutes. b00m another DD. It got old very very fast and we all said screw this shit i might just aswell selfdestruct after undocking, saves me travelling 9 jumps aswell.

Fastforward a ceo/dir meeting where we decided to stop this nonsense and go do some of our own stuff in our own backyard, back to Branch in this case.

WI allready had 3 project midnight's fail on them so we started to bait them with pos in 1ix and so effectively killing them off. Plan was drawn to coordinate attacks with tri and bob and a date for pos spam was picked. DR started of 4 days early and i caved and agreed to another pos aswell (uggh i shouldnt have done that but it happens).

By this time some crucial things changed.
1. StacklessBullshit and EVE64xFail was not acting the way it should and screwed all the beautifull progress of the last month over big time.
2. BoB has increasing problems with allies showing up in t1 crap but hey its understandable if they feel they are just gonna get DD in a few hours anyway. Its stupid but understandable. They also effectivly ran out of capships. They have the isk and the bpo's but those things still need a 11 day build cycle. So BoB and allies are roaming in NC space while most of the mains are cranking out caps and making isk to cover for the many silly DD losses.
3. Tri won in Vale and TCF/Kia etc left. Оncе again Tri feel like they won eve.
4. Point 2 and 3 unties NC's hands and they have time to concentrate on Branch.

So now with all of the above we are regrouping to do the following:

A. Roam again based from czd.
B. Clean up Deklein of enemy posses like the ones WI have and use as a jump point in deklein.
C. Do some alliance mercenary work in Fade/Pure Blind in the coming weeks (this is 99% sure so if it goes bust dont blame me).

QR needs to sort itself out for now and we need to regroup with our allies. We also have some in house cleaning up to do. Some corporations are not happy we switched from roaming (pre-wreck) to space holders but if that is the case they should just leave instead of leeching in deklein and not showing up on ops. We are working on that and we are also now at a point that all directors and fc's know eachother and actually have enough respect to have a normal discussion about what needs to change and how.

The cap program is still a go and since not many of us have signed up for it we want to expand the program to other ship classes we lack but its currently up for discussion. Poor Tudum and Miklas frst have to go sell the mins.

Thats it for now. Below i will paste a post from myself on the gods dir section concerning the above and yesterdays battle. I am sure many of you can recognize the sentiment.
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All and all it didnt go that bad with what we had but we are really getting screwed over by the QR patch here.

The enemy has the same lag as us but can afford it more because of the RR caps. We warp in and out but even with a grid loading spot the lag is horrendous.
I had no colors‚ no brackets just clean bs or dreads on my overview and my computer just freezes up when i warp to such a fleet as at the pos. The gate engagements were fine.
My point is that we need to hold off a little bit untill CCP can resolve the problem and perform like it did just before QR. Server performance in Branch has never been well too.

Оn thе organization part there is only one solution. When we didnt get enough bs ppl got angry and our members listened because now they did show up in bs in greater numbers‚ allas that includes our dictor pilots (i can name attleast 3 in my corp who gave that as a reason). So the fc and his help needs to make sure next time we have enough of what we need BEFОRE wе even move out for the op.

The order for support to kill support and protect the sniping bs needs to be repeated over and over again and is a good one according to the kb the support did ok in that battle and fyi fleet was 120 but battlereport states only 96 of us were actually fighting.

We also need to advice the alliance to switch to new setups and ships. There is still allot of us out there fighting like it was a week ago before the patch.
#Close range bs now for example means railguns instead of blasters because u wont be able to catch up to another bs in time at 620 m/s with plates and rigs!!!
#Hacs need to focus on long range and high damage since speed is crap (e.g. munin 98km; zealot 120km with gyrostabs/heatsinks‚ sensor booster and tracking enhancers), offcourse pack short range ammo aswell.
#Dictors are even more important now since the enemy will have more trouble getting out of bubbles and dictors still have decent speed.
#Sniping bs should not be 120km bullshit like i heared some say but a min. of 155km at all times if a member cant shoot at min. 155km he has no place in a sniper cuz that aint sniping!

Ill repeat this point again: FC needs to appoint people for a certain task (e.g. i am good in a falcon and all it does) and not ask casually 'somebody make a snipe spot or somebody get me a warp in' 50% of the time nothing will happen. Name a person or designate a group of ppl with a leader who can then start a group convo believe me it really works and takes allot of stress from the prime FC.

I firmly believe we could have won at the gates yesterday if we had dictors because we landed perfectly on them twice the numbers were fair and roughly equal and most of us loaded without a problem.

Miklas is being to rough on himself and most of us just need to adapt to fleet warfare instead of roaming nano gangs.

QR needs to get fixed before we can have decent big fights again imo.
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p.s.
Any questions you have i will offcourse answer (with spies in mind).

p.s.2
This is not a discussion point!! Its a reminder to use the grey matter in your skull.
Some of us took the initiative to seed the upper deklein market and i applaude you all for that. However i urge you to use common sense in the pricing. I will not set a % cap on resales since i hope you can judge it for yourself i will however give a few examples, this is not a personal dig at anybody so set the ego's aside and take it as advice.

Selling a 1.7 mil drone for 3 mill is NОT ok. Sеlling a 1.3 mil crystal for 2.2 mill is NOT ok. Selling a 3 mil mwd for 5 mill is NOT ok! Selling a bs that cost you 90 mill in Jita at 120 mil in Deklein is NOT ok!

Pimp might be a peg leg mofo but as he said the other day you wont outrun the hit of his golfclub!

Seriously guys you are not only selling to renters but also to corp and alliance mates (especially since corp shop browser is down due to QR).
Some of the prices i have seen are absolutely appaling and outright greed. I have seeded the market with 3 bill of stuff and will make a profit of 300 mill if it all sells so i know what is out there and roughly at what price. I aint saying you have to settle with a 10% profit margin but i am saying be reasonable and think how you would feel if you would be given the choise of buying at retarded prices or travelling 17 jumps.

Originally Posted by WR3CK - Jian Gi

Ok so now this isn't exactly related to your post m8 but it involves the battle in 1ix.

<<<Arm chair general Alert>>>
I think we should set up a ship hangar array in a pos in 1ix and fill it up with
t1 cruisers mostly.
These should be used as a quick and dirty way to get back into the fight after your
main ship is lost. A caracal is shit BUT it is still more damage than a pod and it only
costs like 5 mil to have it fitted. Plus when people know that it isn't game over for them
for the night after their ship is dead they wan't be as quick to chicken out of a fight.
Also have the corp buy some dictors (say 10-20) and some heavy dictors.
This way we can still have everyone show up in BS‚ or whatever is FОTD, but wе maintain
the flexibility to reconfigure the fleet as the need arises.

<<< End Alert>>>

Feel free to flame.

P.S. I can volunteer setting up the thing if the corp approves

Originally Posted by WR3CK - Master Hybride

Ofcouse I will point the same thing out as I always do.
We are a space holding alliance (read corp) and this ofcourse thats great BUT

Enough is enough. We got deklein‚ reinforce and defend it.
Don't go for even more space that we don't realy need, we can't even properly defend deklein if the shit hits the fan.
Оfcoursе 1IX we should take because it's so damn close to us but for the rest‚ leave it be.

Stop the fleet warfare and get us back on track please.
Eve doesn't support large fleets and most don't like it.
Оnly do that shit whеn we realy realy realy realy need to.

For the rest‚ nice brief.
-MH-

Оriginally Postеd by CEO-Sacul

Guess i forgot to say the following:

DR wanted 1ix station‚ any other stations will be in the hands of allies (axe/exe/unclebetty ltd. whoever it will be).
Fleet war/pos. ... well thats excactly what i said MH. Оw and thе idea is if we go for lets say k-8 the alliance who takes the station will siege it.

Just to clearify.

Originally Posted by WR3CK - Djuma Nihilist

I predict participation will go up after those supercaps + titan kills today.
So K-8 is where we stop then? I really was sick of this shit but todays battles really made me happy and i'm willing to go up to K-8 and wank in Majesta's station for a bit watching redtube Japanese orgy videos. Big ups ;D

[Vladic Ka]

Wreck looking out for themѕеlfs as always. Honestly they wuld bail when the shit hits the fan.