2008-10-20, 04:10
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North Eastern Swat - Euro
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Azriel Dregg, aes seda1, Iodo, matlow
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GODS: WR3CK rant
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Оriginally Postеd by [WR3CK
Gharthak]
This message is obviously in regards to our little hot dropping received by PL. I want it known straight up. If this thread is deleted or moderated. I'm out of the alliance. This alliance has been moderating people way too much even on the leadership levels way too fracking much and it is getting out of hand. We lost an entire capital fleet and this needs to be prevented again and this is TOTALLY in alliance leaderships fault and responsibility.. It is very common for us to have motherships on the field and had we.. this would have been very very bad outcome. This needs to be debated‚ disputed etc to prevent it from happening again. So lets let this begin so everyone see's exactly what happened.
Prior to dispatching capitals to VFK it was seen that Goonies, as usual were in the area. This is not unusual. PL however was also in the area with several people. This alliance is far too ignorant and ignores PL. Whenever wreck warns them of PL, they totally ignore us and infact we have never made an effort to fit our capitals to combat against their tactics as we should be - sniper dreads. We (wreck) looked at the eve map. Bingo 133 man blob in PL home system. PL under attack or PL beginning to mobilize.. Оnе or the other folks.
We sent a scout. As the scout was moving the eve map (delayed of course) began to show the system emptying. by the time the scout got there it was emptied to 5. I was in convo with tudem about this.. Convo's below.. I did not believe we should have had capitals fielded.
[04:10:12] Zla Droljica > say sooshie
[04:10:17] Sooshie > lol
[04:10:19] Sooshie > hi
[04:10:33] Sooshie > carefull of PL we wreck are paranoid of them
[04:10:42] Zla Droljica > i know
[04:10:53] Sooshie > they have 133 people bundled up in outer ring by the looks of eve map
[04:11:16] Zla Droljica > teel them that in capital chanal
[04:11:23] Sooshie > 2 jumps from hitting us
[04:11:54] Zla Droljica > tell them that in capital chanal
[04:12:08] Sooshie > Dont want to scare everyone just thought I'd let you know lol
[04:15:18] Sooshie > suggest we pew pew the towers watch eve-map a few minutes for cynos to register and be cautious. I dont know whats going on down there
[04:22:19] Zla Droljica > yes i say to deathra that
[04:30:09] Zla Droljica > [04:10:54] Sooshie > they have 133 people bundled up in outer ring by the looks of eve map
[04:30:15] Zla Droljica > where is that system
[04:30:20] Zla Droljica > can you link it to me
[04:31:39] Sooshie > d5iw or d5lw
[04:31:44] Sooshie > whichever it lists as
[04:32:27] Zla Droljica > hmm i am loking on cyno fields and people in space
[04:32:40] Sooshie > they have multiple titans its large support fleet jump bridging I'm more concerned about
[04:33:32] Zla Droljica > yea i get your point but what we can do
[04:33:55] Zla Droljica > we can like disband gang and go to sleap cause we cant know what they are up to
[04:34:20] Sooshie > well balls out mode I guess.
[04:34:43] Zla Droljica > yea i am also like not scared about pl only that i respect them
[04:34:46] Zla Droljica > but still
[04:49:32] Sooshie > system pop dumped down nearly in half
[04:50:03] Zla Droljica > yea but no new blobs around us
[04:50:18] Zla Droljica > my info is that goons capitals and most of people are in esoteria
[04:50:40] Zla Droljica > about pl dont know now cause i have intel in eu zone
[05:01:10] Sooshie > d5iw is emptied to 5 people
[05:01:18] Sooshie > We sent down a scout
[05:04:36] Sooshie > hold on
[05:04:52] Sooshie > I think PL has scouted our dreads and that big blob is on its way up
[05:05:23] Sooshie > goons is up here.. goons + PL.. virtually the same shit
[05:06:28] Sooshie > lets have a 15 minute break send out scouts to the major incomming locations so we do not loose a capital fleet
[05:08:03] Zla Droljica > say that to deathra i am not fc
Hence I convo'd deathra (the cap fc)
Convo with cap fc:
[05:09:08] Dethra > whats up?
[05:09:10] Sooshie > hold on before we go into siege
[05:09:15] Dethra > yeh i will
[05:09:22] Sooshie > we know there was a big 130 man blob in outer ring
[05:09:29] Dethra > ech
[05:09:33] Sooshie > PL is up here.. goons is up here.. they know we have caps fielded
[05:09:38] Sooshie > that 130 man blob is gone
[05:09:49] Sooshie > we dont know where it is it could be a 130 man nano fleet on its way here
[05:10:18] Sooshie > Think we need to place scouts in major systems before we risk a capital fleet
[05:10:41] Dethra > yek
[05:10:46] Sooshie > We sent down a scout to the system with the blob 5 people there now no signs of the blob
[05:11:19] Dethra > which system?
[05:11:41] Sooshie > d5iw is the originating system we have no idea where the fleet is now
[05:11:46] Dethra > ok
[05:12:03] Sooshie > thats outer ring it left some time ago
[05:12:40] Dethra > k‚ we can finish this and then be done unless we get conf of a change
[05:13:07] Sooshie > for all we know its like in fade on its way
(dethra is too impatient.. orders siege... capitals hot drop)
[05:13:14] Sooshie > fuck
[05:17:02] Dethra > ffs
[05:18:17] Sooshie > I warned you
[05:18:20] Sooshie > its all I can say
A few failures to be noted amongst many. We had support and capital squads mixed. We hardly had any support - lets even ignore that for now... The FC hardly gave out any orders. I heard something about killing a cyno and dictors and not much more.. There was no gang order, the FC totally froze and was not responsible with capital ships. No orders were given off to fire smart bombs with the carriers to salvage the carriers and retreat them nor were instructions given to the pilots. It was total failure. I lost 1 dread and my carrier escaped I know a few things about capital combat.. :P
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Оriginally Postеd by [WR3CK
Taguchi Hiroko]
aye. In military irl‚ you get court marshalled for this level of snafu. if one don't learn a lesson from it, one might as well roll over and die, or quit eve.
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Оriginally Postеd by [GR4ND
Blazefast]
I can't respond to much because i was not there‚ but in my opionion intel worked perfectly. Just a bad call resulting in a very nice fight of PL. they just did good.
Blaming anyone else if FUBAR, blaming the alliance on this forum only ends up moderated in some pubichairfree Goon alt post and has no use what so ever.
Sorry about the losses m8's, truly. Shit about the stuff that happened, but get over it and let's not have it have more collatoral damage as we've seen so much. I hope they simply delete this post imo. This minimal Forum whoring suits me fine, it's these discussions that give some players more pleassure then the actuall fight... (although i can imagine you reasoning m8).
Let's just learn and fuck them up for a while  |
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Оriginally Postеd by [UK1 Z
Diehard Si]
If we'd of gone through the Dekelin campaign worried about what 'could' happen we'd be in Curse right now.
That said‚ it does seem the intel was a bit more specific, and maybe a bit of arrogance about our capabilities or pressure from the leadership to finish the job. We got cocky, we'd had it easy, it was a fuck up now get over it and learn from it.
The reason a lot of threads get moderated is because the forums are hacked, and it will appear on that goon twat kugustsumen site or whatever his name is.
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Оriginally Postеd by [WR3CK
Heikki]
Rants that avoid revealing important shouldn't be issue‚ even if they get posted to drama forums.
It's actually better folks get chance to tell their issues in forum where their misunderstandings can be corrected and proper answer given. Оthеrwise the same issues will just go around as half-truth rumours‚ ѕlowly еroding the feelings of community and trust.
So‚ in the end we loѕt minor skirmish, wе learnt some‚ handle the laundry and go beat ѕomе more out there.
-Lasse
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