KIA DIR: Contract Proposition

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Оriginally Postеd by KIAEddZ

I dont see this a fliyer at all‚ but one the less heres the offer.

"Hi Eddz, We would still be interested in anything you can do. Alternatively if you know of any other entity who would be willing to assist, I trust in your judgement for a referral.

Tri have conquered the station in TVN-FM and are squatting on the same Dysprosium moon in WBR5-R that KIA held during your last contract. They have pulled out all of the capital ships they could muster when they re-formed, and Exceed is also helping them along with a few other small alliances that are riding Tri's coattails.

They have 1 Titan, 4 motherships that I have seen, 10 or so dreads and at least a dozen carriers. Currently they are working on our Sov4 constellation and dropping their own towers in C-FP70. The cyno jammer there is incapacitated as of yesterday.

They are permacamping the stations and gates in that system and in T-ZWA1 and ZA0L-U. No incursions have been made into the southern constellation of BUG6-X where our other station resides.

Here are some battle summaries to give you ideas of fleet composition: http://kb.hydra-alliance.net/?a=kill...d&kll_id=54221 http://kb.hydra-alliance.net/?a=kill...d&kll_id=53899

We still are not sure when/if Pure is coming back to Vale but I think it will likely be soon since Tri has been making incursions into their space also with roaming gangs.

I feel like Princess Leia saying "help me Оbi-Wan-Kеnobi‚ you're my only hope" here... LОL Lеt me know what you can do‚ if anything. I appreciate your time. -Gashon"

Оriginally Postеd by KIA - Tjakka

Hydra are deff dieing‚

Tides left, as they couldnt pay there 2bil alliance bill while hydra had a 22Bil debt to them (tides build the za0l station) gashon is the guy who told em to fck off.
my alt is in same corp lol as far as i can tell from my forum ticker

Tides are unachnoring all there poses i assume.

So make sure we get payed upfront i dont fancy losing ships for a lost cause

Оriginally Postеd by KIA - Tjakka

Anyway ... lets see how bussy Daisho are‚

Best way to start is get Hydra's reinforce timers and see if we can kill off Tri's Capfleet in 1 go.

then they will think 2 times before going into siege again at a hostile pos.

oww, Im up for this contract

Оriginally Postеd by KIA - SentryRaven

I want my dread to be build already...

Originally Posted by LNS - Snowcrow

i agree with tj‚ if we get payed upfront it sounds like fun.

but we'll need daisho for this, i don't think that we can win anything against tri and exceed while being heavily outnumbered.
oh and i think we should demand more than the usual 1.5b a week for this.

do we have any intel about TRIs capfleet?

Оriginally Postеd by KIAEddZ

the problem we have got with the "cash" is we wold need to split itwith Daisho.

I think we need at least 3 billion a week for us personally‚ let alone what w then need to give daisho.

Add to that IF we lose its a murdering on forums from the smackers, if we win its a murdering on forums from the smackers AND roaming Tri/BE gangs in geminate long term.

Its a BIg task, probbaly the biggest task KIA would of ever taken on, and I will be frank, I don't believe we are capable, I saw a lot of ineptitude in the previous run out together, and throwing that ineptitude into the fire, might be a step too far.

For me we arent capable of this, that said I am going to talk to Gashon, gain an idea of what Isk we are talking baut, then approach Goons and Daisho to see how their schedules look.

Оriginally Postеd by DAC - Ombey

My gut feel is that people want a morale raiser‚ a 'fun' contract, near or in empire- where they don't have to lose too much time replacing ships, worrying about catching a gang up etc. Look at the responses on the thread Eddz started.

Оriginally Postеd by LNS - Snowcrow

yeah‚ but on the other hand, maybe a challenge is what kia needs now.
the target region is only a few jumps away, most people are back from holiday or will come back within the next days, so activity should be much better than in stain.

IF we are going to do this, a bit of sisi training might help.

i studied hydra and tri killboards 2 weeks ago (when i first heard from hydra, that they might need help from us), and tbh, tri BS setups aren't that good. it's a mix of sniper BS some kind of remote fittings and other stuff. with a tight KIA BS Fleet we could easily kill them. besides that, they are using the usual nano stuff (maybe we can use a good anti nano strategy?)

question: does the contract contain shooting tri PОSs?

Originally Posted by KIAEddZ

Okies

Lets discuss teh long term consquences.

We own space now‚ and my worry is having Tri and BE gangs romaing around it constantly as pay back...

I,m not worried about them taking our space, thats impossible unless they get backup, but do we really want these faggots in our space, is it worth the payment?

I am beggining to believe we are capable, but I am still worried that it might not be the best move.

Оmbеy‚ this woud actually be a shallow incision, only 8 jumps from empire, with a lot of choke point camping (p3en)

Discuss asap guys.

Оriginally Postеd by KIAEddZ

Upsetting someone isnt really an Issue‚ upsetting Space Holding Entities isnt a problem, but upsetting Raoming Camping Gankers like Tri and BE could be.

I'm not suggesting we base our contract acceptance on a no fear policy, but atthe same time we dont need to do anything silly.

I am going to talk about budget with Gashon today.

Оriginally Postеd by KIAEddZ

As for numbers‚ I think KIA and Daisho at reasonable acapacity would see us with the dominant numbers.
But I will also ask for intel on that today.

Оriginally Postеd by KIAEddZ

More food for thought

"We are prepared to pay up to 20 billion ISK. I have 7 billion at this moment‚ I have also levied a war tax on all pilotswhich if paid will bring in another 15 billion by 00:01 Saturday. Оur CEOs willgеt this done or their corporations will be removed from Hydra and they know it.I did this for the express purpose of paying your organization to do what needsto be done. Some corps have actually offered to pay more than what wasrequired‚ and I should see the ISK in the alliance wallet by tomorrow night. Please let me know if this amount is something you can work with. -Gashon"

Оriginally Postеd by KIA - Tjakka

that sounds good

3 week contract for 5 Bil a week? > 1bil per corp + 3 bil to buy staging poses for the contract

Originally Posted by KIAEddZ

Daisho will need to be cut in on the money TJ.

Originally Posted by KIA - Tjakka

yeah thats the 5bil for that is left over

Originally Posted by KIAEddZ

Daisho arent up for it.

Originally Posted by KIA - SentryRaven

Pussies

Originally Posted by DAC - Ombey

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