Basically OrDer is the guy to talk to and their head admiral.
It all came down to they are looking to hit UNL‚ we are looking to hit UNL. BUT, we have reds on each others lists.
They have stain red.
We have goons and TCF red for them.
So we'd have to figure this out.
Read this next part CAREFULLY
I didn't give away our true targets with stain of TCF, I DID however say we are looking to hit UNL, guys they really hate.
They asked if we'd be willing to hit UNL PОS's in Immеnsea. I countered with if we do‚ would they be willing to help us hit UNL PОS's in Estoria or еlsewhere. He DID agree.
Now with that said this is the very‚ very, very important part.
We are building a new coaltion, we ALL know it. I asked if RK could get standings they said it's likely. However they want to get standings with STAIN.
What does this mean
I think if we got Atlas, Stain, RK and IAC to sit down together we might be able to get mutual blues. Then because of that strike back at common targets such as AAA, UNL and go from there. TCF and Goons.
This isn't just about IAC. I want to build something EXTREMELY powerful and we're going to need strong alliances to do it. They've survived a long time and are looking to hit back. Stain is already around and RK is a long time friend.
We CAN do this. And I'm going to arrange it unless stopped for some reason. So with that said, who is our contact in Stain and the person who talked them into setting us blue. Please make yourself known or contact me. I want to get this sorted for our future.
-Ban
Here's the convo:
[ 2008.07.21 05:49:49 ] ОrDеR > o\
[ 2008.07.21 05:49:54 ] OrDeR > hows things.
[ 2008.07.21 05:50:04 ] OrDeR > how can i help u mate
[ 2008.07.21 05:50:12 ] Banlish > I talked to one of your pilots before
[ 2008.07.21 05:50:19 ] OrDeR > np
[ 2008.07.21 05:50:24 ] Banlish > sorry it's late but I can't recall the name
[ 2008.07.21 05:50:56 ] OrDeR > np
[ 2008.07.21 05:51:00 ] OrDeR > what can u do for u amte?
[ 2008.07.21 05:51:01 ] OrDeR > mate
[ 2008.07.21 05:51:12 ] OrDeR > you after standings?
[ 2008.07.21 05:51:14 ] Banlish > wanted to see if we could arrange standings between our groups
[ 2008.07.21 05:51:24 ] Banlish > seems we're both in interesting times
[ 2008.07.21 05:51:28 ] OrDeR > rgr well mind if i ask u afew questions?
[ 2008.07.21 05:51:52 ] Banlish > go for it
[ 2008.07.21 05:51:55 ] OrDeR > where is ur alliance located? how many caps can u field? and bs fleet ?
[ 2008.07.21 05:52:12 ] Banlish > I'm moving some stuff around atm so might respond a tad slow with jumping and such
[ 2008.07.21 05:52:16 ] Banlish > we're in Stain at the moment
[ 2008.07.21 05:52:32 ] Banlish > the caps is a concern to reveal‚ the bs as well
[ 2008.07.21 05:52:44 ] Banlish > we're not an industrial alliance if that's what your asking
[ 2008.07.21 05:53:09 ] ОrDеR > rgr well im fleet admiral of iac‚ just curious what u guys can field.
[ 2008.07.21 05:53:25 ] ОrDеR > im happy to tell u what we can field.
[ 2008.07.21 05:53:34 ] OrDeR > not hard intel to find out raelly.
[ 2008.07.21 05:53:35 ] Banlish > well if things are positive I think our admiral can talk to you about it
[ 2008.07.21 05:53:41 ] OrDeR > rgr np
[ 2008.07.21 05:53:41 ] Banlish > yeah kbs show most of it
[ 2008.07.21 05:53:49 ] OrDeR > =)
[ 2008.07.21 05:54:06 ] OrDeR > who are ur blues ?
[ 2008.07.21 05:54:07 ] OrDeR > ad reds?
[ 2008.07.21 05:54:15 ] Banlish > blues atm are stain and rk
[ 2008.07.21 05:54:19 ] Banlish > reds uum.... rsf
[ 2008.07.21 05:54:28 ] Banlish > everything else neutral
[ 2008.07.21 05:54:35 ] Banlish > we keep a VERY short blue list
[ 2008.07.21 05:54:43 ] Banlish > how bout you guys?
[ 2008.07.21 05:54:49 ] OrDeR > stain is red
[ 2008.07.21 05:54:52 ] Banlish > btw here‚ not like you can't google it anyway
[ 2008.07.21 05:54:55 ] Banlish >
http://www.atlas-alliance.com/killbo...etail&all_id=1
[ 2008.07.21 05:55:34 ] ОrDеR > we fight AAA / UNL
[ 2008.07.21 05:55:39 ] OrDeR > mainly
[ 2008.07.21 05:56:01 ] Banlish > we're fighting UNL‚ AAA and TCF pretty heavily atm
[ 2008.07.21 05:56:10 ] Banlish > hence the stain thing
[ 2008.07.21 05:56:35 ] ОrDеR > our blues; goons ‚ vangaurd, tcf , ftz , cva
[ 2008.07.21 05:56:44 ] ОrDеR > defi4nt / slyth also
[ 2008.07.21 05:57:03 ] OrDeR > bob / unl / AAA / goodfellas / RA all red
[ 2008.07.21 05:57:09 ] OrDeR > msot of it i think.
[ 2008.07.21 05:57:28 ] Banlish > goons and tcf are still blue to you guys?
[ 2008.07.21 05:57:33 ] Banlish > after they left you to AAA?
[ 2008.07.21 05:57:38 ] OrDeR > yea
[ 2008.07.21 05:57:58 ] OrDeR > well we cant afford to go neut to goons
[ 2008.07.21 05:58:05 ] OrDeR > + have afew mates in there.
[ 2008.07.21 05:58:12 ] OrDeR > they just wont get involved.
[ 2008.07.21 05:58:32 ] OrDeR > we can handle it though.
[ 2008.07.21 05:58:42 ] OrDeR > fight for survival with AAA =)
[ 2008.07.21 05:59:02 ] Banlish > you guys seem to be doing pretty good against AAA
[ 2008.07.21 05:59:16 ] Banlish > from the *shudder* CAOD posts I've been reading
[ 2008.07.21 05:59:45 ] OrDeR > not really actually.
[ 2008.07.21 05:59:55 ] OrDeR > but iac have always had wars from all sides.
[ 2008.07.21 06:00:05 ] OrDeR > we had a big fight with reqrium not sure if u heard?
[ 2008.07.21 06:00:37 ] OrDeR > was on the news
[ 2008.07.21 06:00:37 ] OrDeR > they split up and left curse sunday.
[ 2008.07.21 06:00:37 ] OrDeR > so now we can focus on AAA and UNL
[ 2008.07.21 06:00:50 ] OrDeR > but we lack the caps to fight AAA head on atm.
[ 2008.07.21 06:00:57 ] Banlish > yeah we were watching that
[ 2008.07.21 06:01:01 ] OrDeR > our allys help alot due to AAA are a very good cap warefare alliance.
[ 2008.07.21 06:01:07 ] Banlish > one of the reasons I tried to contact you guys 2 weeks back
[ 2008.07.21 06:01:15 ] OrDeR > me?
[ 2008.07.21 06:01:19 ] OrDeR > did u mail me?
[ 2008.07.21 06:01:21 ] Banlish > no the other guy
[ 2008.07.21 06:01:26 ] Banlish > no one told me about you
[ 2008.07.21 06:01:27 ] Banlish >
[ 2008.07.21 06:01:28 ] OrDeR > ah u need to talk to me =)
[ 2008.07.21 06:01:36 ] OrDeR > everyone else is hopeless.
[ 2008.07.21 06:01:48 ] OrDeR > sorry to say.
[ 2008.07.21 06:02:11 ] OrDeR > we have had afew new friends though ‚ which is good for us and them , sith simlar interests.
[ 2008.07.21 06:02:23 ] ОrDеR > what would be the purpose of us having standings though?
[ 2008.07.21 06:02:32 ] OrDeR > and with u guys being blue to stain =p
[ 2008.07.21 06:02:33 ] Banlish > Eaiaden was the pilot
[ 2008.07.21 06:02:44 ] OrDeR > ah his lead diplo
[ 2008.07.21 06:02:50 ] OrDeR > but not here alot ‚ heh
[ 2008.07.21 06:02:57 ] Banlish > we're in different time zones
[ 2008.07.21 06:03:01 ] ОrDеR > rgr
[ 2008.07.21 06:03:01 ] Banlish > eve mailed a few times
[ 2008.07.21 06:03:05 ] Banlish > but ah well
[ 2008.07.21 06:03:14 ] OrDeR > rgr sorry took so long.
[ 2008.07.21 06:03:24 ] OrDeR > ok so why do u guys want standings?
[ 2008.07.21 06:03:26 ] OrDeR > curious
[ 2008.07.21 06:03:44 ] Banlish > well not sure how it would work with us each having reds on the others blue list
[ 2008.07.21 06:03:56 ] Banlish > stain on our side‚ goons tcf on yours
[ 2008.07.21 06:04:08 ] ОrDеR > hmm
[ 2008.07.21 06:04:13 ] OrDeR > would stain set us blue?
[ 2008.07.21 06:04:26 ] Banlish > I honestly don't know‚ could find out
[ 2008.07.21 06:04:34 ] Banlish > are you guys red or neutral?>
[ 2008.07.21 06:04:38 ] ОrDеR > though goons are hitn stain atm
[ 2008.07.21 06:04:42 ] OrDeR > red mate.
[ 2008.07.21 06:04:46 ] OrDeR > but i dont mind stain tbh
[ 2008.07.21 06:04:59 ] OrDeR > and i have abit of leway on standings
[ 2008.07.21 06:05:26 ] OrDeR > well that is a main issue
[ 2008.07.21 06:05:29 ] Banlish > I think the reverse question would be would you guys be willing to drop goons
[ 2008.07.21 06:05:33 ] OrDeR > having similar blues
[ 2008.07.21 06:05:38 ] OrDeR > nope
[ 2008.07.21 06:05:44 ] OrDeR > president wouldnt agree.
[ 2008.07.21 06:05:50 ] OrDeR > sorry‚.
[ 2008.07.21 06:06:04 ] ОrDеR > and we need them kinda
[ 2008.07.21 06:06:18 ] OrDeR > even though there not helping with AAA
[ 2008.07.21 06:06:23 ] OrDeR > they keeping RA away
[ 2008.07.21 06:06:27 ] Banlish > hrm
[ 2008.07.21 06:06:33 ] Banlish > stain seems to be fighting RA
[ 2008.07.21 06:06:43 ] OrDeR > and it is desperate times =(
[ 2008.07.21 06:06:51 ] OrDeR > RA + goons
[ 2008.07.21 06:06:56 ] OrDeR > from wha ti hear.
[ 2008.07.21 06:07:18 ] OrDeR > goons dont come into our space though
[ 2008.07.21 06:07:35 ] OrDeR > so if we have joint ops wouldnt matter much if its in catch / curse / immensea
[ 2008.07.21 06:08:29 ] OrDeR > who do u guys fight?
[ 2008.07.21 06:08:53 ] Banlish > tcf‚ goons, unl
[ 2008.07.21 06:09:03 ] ОrDеR > from the intel so far having standings with u guys would be hard.
[ 2008.07.21 06:09:06 ] OrDeR > but*
[ 2008.07.21 06:09:15 ] OrDeR > u guys fight unl.
[ 2008.07.21 06:09:19 ] OrDeR > which is good.
[ 2008.07.21 06:09:26 ] Banlish > could always arrange a pow wow between the 3 alliances
[ 2008.07.21 06:09:31 ] Banlish > might be able to figure something out
[ 2008.07.21 06:09:54 ] OrDeR > would u guys help us take afew pos's out from unl ?
[ 2008.07.21 06:10:13 ] OrDeR > immensea space.
[ 2008.07.21 06:10:27 ] OrDeR > there must be a purpose for us to be blue.
[ 2008.07.21 06:10:38 ] Banlish > I'd have to see what the guys want to do‚ one sec juimping
[ 2008.07.21 06:10:40 ] Banlish > *jumping
[ 2008.07.21 06:12:07 ] Banlish > would it go both ways is what I'm wondering, maybe hit some UNL towers in immensea to have you guys return the assist to hit other targets in return?
[ 2008.07.21 06:12:32 ] ОrDеR > yea im thinkign same thing
[ 2008.07.21 06:13:15 ] Banlish > I know these questions would be asked
[ 2008.07.21 06:13:23 ] Banlish > so I'm throwing them basically out there to consider
[ 2008.07.21 06:14:09 ] OrDeR > who are ur taregts though?
[ 2008.07.21 06:15:01 ] Banlish > UNL
[ 2008.07.21 06:15:10 ] Banlish > pretty heavily UNL
[ 2008.07.21 06:15:17 ] OrDeR > dude if u want to hit unl
[ 2008.07.21 06:15:24 ] OrDeR > il bring the caps in =)
[ 2008.07.21 06:15:28 ] Banlish > hehe
[ 2008.07.21 06:15:34 ] Banlish > seems we have a similar enemy
[ 2008.07.21 06:15:44 ] Banlish > they helped cost us our space with bullshit over time
[ 2008.07.21 06:15:49 ] Banlish > wouldn't mind returning the favor
[ 2008.07.21 06:15:55 ] OrDeR > rgr
[ 2008.07.21 06:16:05 ] OrDeR > well u close with stain ?
[ 2008.07.21 06:16:25 ] Banlish > hrm?
[ 2008.07.21 06:17:26 ] OrDeR > getn standings with stain could be good also.
[ 2008.07.21 06:17:58 ] Banlish > yeah‚ that's why I'm hoping they'd be open to the idea of a chat between the 3 alliances, maybe 4 if RK is around
[ 2008.07.21 06:18:03 ] ОrDеR > and if u want standings with iac u would have to set our allys blues pls‚ vangaurd / defi4nt / slyth
[ 2008.07.21 06:18:07 ] ОrDеR > just them 3.
[ 2008.07.21 06:18:18 ] Banlish > that shouldn't be a problem we don't mess with them anyway
[ 2008.07.21 06:18:18 ] OrDeR > sounds great
[ 2008.07.21 06:18:46 ] OrDeR > they are good guys
[ 2008.07.21 06:18:49 ] OrDeR > and help us alot
[ 2008.07.21 06:19:08 ] Banlish > seems like you have your own mini coaltion going down here long term
[ 2008.07.21 06:19:31 ] Banlish > I did talk to scooter
[ 2008.07.21 06:19:52 ] Banlish > (leader of RK)‚ he'd like to talk as well, standings arrangements could be helpful
[ 2008.07.21 06:20:16 ] Banlish > might change the look of the map a tad.
[ 2008.07.21 06:20:20 ] ОrDеR > yea we kinda do
[ 2008.07.21 06:20:34 ] OrDeR > sounds great
[ 2008.07.21 06:20:55 ] Banlish > just out of curosity how big is the cap fleet?
[ 2008.07.21 06:21:13 ] Banlish > you don't have to answer if‚ since I'm not able, that's not a fair trade sorta deal
[ 2008.07.21 06:21:28 ] ОrDеR > we have 100ish
[ 2008.07.21 06:21:31 ] OrDeR > but*
[ 2008.07.21 06:21:39 ] OrDeR > most we have had active at same time is 22
[ 2008.07.21 06:21:46 ] OrDeR > so eh
[ 2008.07.21 06:21:50 ] Banlish > so different time zones short thing
[ 2008.07.21 06:21:56 ] OrDeR > yea
[ 2008.07.21 06:22:16 ] OrDeR > just depends really.
[ 2008.07.21 06:22:22 ] OrDeR > im sure u guys have mroe then 22?
[ 2008.07.21 06:22:27 ] Banlish > quite
[ 2008.07.21 06:22:40 ] Banlish > anything else I reveal and I'm afraid they'd string me up
[ 2008.07.21 06:22:54 ] OrDeR > quite as in more then 22?
[ 2008.07.21 06:22:58 ] Banlish > yes
[ 2008.07.21 06:23:02 ] OrDeR > thats fine
[ 2008.07.21 06:25:05 ] Banlish > I really thought you guys had dropped most of your allies when the various alliances let you guys take it on the chin
[ 2008.07.21 06:25:44 ] OrDeR > yea well ‚ we booted all the carebares from iac
[ 2008.07.21 06:25:56 ] ОrDеR > iac has always been under alot of pressure.
[ 2008.07.21 06:26:02 ] OrDeR > always fighting on 3 fronts.
[ 2008.07.21 06:26:09 ] OrDeR > so nothing different =)
[ 2008.07.21 06:26:16 ] OrDeR > bob / aaa / unl
[ 2008.07.21 06:26:38 ] OrDeR > reqrium is dead which im happy about ‚ pwn there carrier 2 days ago
[ 2008.07.21 06:26:48 ] Banlish > heh, their attacking fountain now
[ 2008.07.21 06:26:53 ] ОrDеR > solo bumped in my raven =) was a nice little kill.
[ 2008.07.21 06:26:55 ] Banlish > probably just in time to be curb stomped by bob
[ 2008.07.21 06:27:06 ] OrDeR > rgr.
[ 2008.07.21 06:27:46 ] Banlish > you bump him off the station or something?
[ 2008.07.21 06:28:12 ] OrDeR > yea bump / double nueting
[ 2008.07.21 06:28:23 ] OrDeR > was holding in 10% armor
[ 2008.07.21 06:28:37 ] OrDeR > then iac fleet came in with vanguard
[ 2008.07.21 06:28:43 ] OrDeR > pwn em
[ 2008.07.21 06:28:47 ] OrDeR > 3 carriers 1 mom
[ 2008.07.21 06:29:16 ] OrDeR > all got away though besides 1 carrier‚ bloody station campers =(
[ 2008.07.21 06:29:25 ] ОrDеR > but anyway il stop talkn crap.
[ 2008.07.21 06:29:54 ] Banlish > nah I like hearing this stuff time to time
[ 2008.07.21 06:30:07 ] Banlish > CEO means work most of the time‚ very little pvp
[ 2008.07.21 06:30:37 ] ОrDеR > yea i just made my own corp ‚ but if im only im fc'n =p
[ 2008.07.21 06:30:47 ] ОrDеR > 24/7 fc'n =)
[ 2008.07.21 06:31:08 ] Banlish > know how that goes
[ 2008.07.21 06:31:12 ] Banlish > there's always something to do
[ 2008.07.21 06:33:23 ] OrDeR > yea no doubt
[ 2008.07.21 06:33:34 ] OrDeR > ppl always bustn my balls to take fleets op
[ 2008.07.21 06:33:38 ] OrDeR > ive gone broke =p
[ 2008.07.21 06:33:46 ] Banlish > that's what alts are for
[ 2008.07.21 06:34:17 ] OrDeR > yea but i got no time to rat =)
[ 2008.07.21 06:34:43 ] Banlish > alts in other alliances‚ hehe
[ 2008.07.21 06:35:15 ] ОrDеR > haha
[ 2008.07.21 06:35:19 ] OrDeR > nah iac for life =p
[ 2008.07.21 06:35:31 ] Banlish > gotta take some time for yourself
[ 2008.07.21 06:36:01 ] OrDeR > working on it now
[ 2008.07.21 06:36:06 ] OrDeR > think i might run a plex
[ 2008.07.21 06:36:46 ] Banlish > holy‚ it's 2:30 am!
[ 2008.07.21 06:36:59 ] Banlish > god damn real life getting in the way of EVE
[ 2008.07.21 06:37:10 ] ОrDеR > haha
[ 2008.07.21 06:37:12 ] OrDeR > tell me about it
[ 2008.07.21 06:37:17 ] Banlish > before I get going and post this‚ anything else I might be able to answer?
[ 2008.07.21 06:37:18 ] ОrDеR > nice talkn with u
[ 2008.07.21 06:37:26 ] OrDeR > nah well
[ 2008.07.21 06:37:30 ] OrDeR > my main concern is
[ 2008.07.21 06:37:43 ] OrDeR > having similar blues not all just the ones that matter‚
[ 2008.07.21 06:37:51 ] ОrDеR > seeing as we both want unl dead.
[ 2008.07.21 06:37:59 ] OrDeR > we can neally take them now.
[ 2008.07.21 06:38:11 ] OrDeR > with u guys should not be a problem at all‚ make things alot easier
[ 2008.07.21 06:38:26 ] ОrDеR > and would be ncie to accomplish something and change the map.
[ 2008.07.21 06:38:27 ] Banlish > I think alot of ppl are seeing UNL getting too big
[ 2008.07.21 06:38:47 ] OrDeR > they are spread though‚ there forces are thin.
[ 2008.07.21 06:39:04 ] Banlish > yeah, they own waaay to much to defend it all
[ 2008.07.21 06:39:18 ] ОrDеR > they dont even use immensea =p
[ 2008.07.21 06:39:28 ] Banlish > seems they rent it out
[ 2008.07.21 06:40:06 ] OrDeR > not really‚ they dont even use it, i take roams down there and its dead,
[ 2008.07.21 06:40:23 ] Banlish > hrm
[ 2008.07.21 06:40:40 ] Banlish > long as those moon mining towers are going tho...
[ 2008.07.21 06:41:31 ] Banlish > I think we'll all have alot to talk about
[ 2008.07.21 06:41:31 ] ОrDеR > yea
[ 2008.07.21 06:41:39 ] Banlish > I'll see what I can arrange
[ 2008.07.21 06:41:51 ] OrDeR > yea talk to rk / stain
[ 2008.07.21 06:41:55 ] OrDeR > contact me only pls
[ 2008.07.21 06:42:00 ] Banlish > sure
[ 2008.07.21 06:42:03 ] OrDeR > i see the bigger picture
[ 2008.07.21 06:42:10 ] Banlish > hope so
[ 2008.07.21 06:42:21 ] Banlish > I hate dealing with 20+ ppl
[ 2008.07.21 06:42:27 ] Banlish > always gets muddled
[ 2008.07.21 06:42:27 ] OrDeR > eaiaden will be stuburne‚ due to u guys are red to goons
[ 2008.07.21 06:42:46 ] ОrDеR > yea any questions / issues contact me plks
[ 2008.07.21 06:42:49 ] OrDeR > pls*
[ 2008.07.21 06:43:03 ] Banlish > sounds fine to me
[ 2008.07.21 06:43:16 ] OrDeR > well i gtg ‚ nice talkn to u
[ 2008.07.21 06:43:22 ] Banlish > ditto
[ 2008.07.21 06:43:23 ] ОrDеR > will talk 2morw again i hope.
[ 2008.07.21 06:43:27 ] Banlish > nice talking to you as well
[ 2008.07.21 06:43:29 ] OrDeR > o\
[ 2008.07.21 06:43:34 ] Banlish > yeah I'll be on tommorow
[ 2008.07.21 06:43:37 ] Banlish > later o/
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