CAN: System we CAN hold

[Shadoo]

(title is theirs... what gay faggots)

Оriginally Postеd by [SGHQ] Elrac

P-2TTL

It is currently held by The Church. The system has 5 moon. Two moons have unarmed SMALL Caldari towers. The other three are large Mimmatar. One is the weakest of the 3 (5-3) as it has fewer guns and ewar than the others.
The station is a Gallente outpost. Closest refineries are in Cloud Ring or NPC areas. Mining in the area would not be that great-- best ore I found was various jaspets.


It is two rorqual jumps from 4c with a midpoint in Un-natural station systems or held space. It would keep us within easy range of local allies as well as 4c assets and resources. The system has 5 gates-- if you look at the map its basically two clusters.

The Church is small‚ but is a BoB pet, but BoB is unlikely to come do anything about this system. The Church is not nearly the group they used to be.


While this isnt great space its the kind of test we need and can do without losing everything.

See.. Im not completely crazy :lol:

Оriginally Postеd by [HoBo] Hera Minor

As a test - this would be good. A success would be great for moral‚ and it's something to put us on the map so to speak. It's also 2 jumps from Chard with a stop in UN space. There are 3 systems 1 jump out -2 with 25, 1 with 30 - belts for ratting. Not the best sec. - but still better then nothing. The main system has 5 moons, so pretty much very easy to cover every moon to hold. There are 6 systems in the constellation, with BoB owned systems on either side.

We fight BoB when they come in. We provide them with good fights, then they will respect us. The thing they hate the most is smack talk - so keep it clean. You want respect from BoB, you have to respect them.

I'm all for it. We know we are not going to mine there, but we need a starting point to learn from that won't cost us too much - so let's do this

Оriginally Postеd by [-NTK-] Jascal

This is the only element that confuses me in the plan. Earlier we were offering to assist BoB and try to side with the blues. Now we are talking about fighting them. Are there no weak NC, Goonish or neutral targets available?

That will leave us in the dark politically and independent. We will not hold anything good for very long in that position. Looks like it is time to wear steel toed boots because we will be shooting ourselves in the feet with this move.

However this is decided, we will still follow the will of the group.

Оriginally Postеd by [SGHQ] Elrac

BOB doesnt care about us. We inquired about Dek.. they said sure go for it.. but we found they were telling others same thing. Molle asked me "How much was it worth to us?" implying renting.. which we said no way.. said we would help fight but not rent.. and Ive gotten no response.

The Church is a weak BoB ally that BoB isnt very happy with. Taking thieir space weakens them further in BoBs eyes‚ and could mean a better view for us.

P-2 is not great space, so not many are likely to challenge for it, but it is in an area that we can get steady PVP. And its a test to see what we can do w/o betting the farm on it.

Оriginally Postеd by [CODC] Beriel

We have been political independants for quite a long time. quite frankly we are better off hitting pureblind or fade than we are if we had been a part of a 'succesful' move to establish requiem in fountain.

In Bobs eyes your are less of a target if you are an enemy of bob's friend rather than a friend of bob's enemy. ie: bob is not about protecting friends. at least that is my hummble take on it.

[Doris Dents]

Are thoѕе cockfaggots already planning their retreat? Christ on a bike

[Shadoo]

I ѕеe you didn't actually read the 2 previous CAN threads...

[Hortoken Wolfbrother]

itd be aweѕomе if we just steamrole behind bob and take everything they worked for, thatd be really demoralizing for bob imo.